Meta post I’ve decided to make. I enjoyed the unixporn subreddit a lot when I used reddit more. I enjoy customizing my linux de as much as the next nerd.
But you definitely shouldn’t use racist slang to refer to the process.
To be clear, I didn’t know the origin of the term ‘ricing’ until fairly recently. I was chattimg with my friend and used it to describe my de setup. They informed me that apparently it’s from car customization, and is a pejorative against generally asian men who customize their car to look like a racecar.
After learning this I was sad to realize just how engrained it is in linux de customization culture. I personally have stopped using the term, and I would ask everyone here stop as well.
It is not racist and have nothing to do with asian men. But white men who riced asian cars.
The arguments being made here are the same ones that were used for f*ggot, tr*p, nword, g*psy, r*dskins, etc etc etc.
It’s the same damn thing every single time, a bunch of reactionaries will piss and whine and piss and whine and piss and whine because they have to make the most minimal amount of effort to adopt a new word in their vocabulary instead of the problem one. They will piss and whine forever until eventually accepting it, like all the others historically.
They join a long long line of pissy whiney losers for making the same tired old arguments we’ve seen for so many things before.
My Opinion is this:
- Racist/Able-ist words were once normal words. Gay used to mean “Happy” (this applies for other words probably, but I am not able to recall at the moment)
- Many people had no idea that ricing was a racist slang. They wanted to use it to describe a cool new thing that’s inclusive.
- Would you agree that a word whose racist meaning is forgotten and it now referring to something inclusive and cool is a good thing in general?
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I thought rice was an acronym that stood for Race Inspired Car Enhancment. I can see how it might have
hadracist orgins but wouldn’t the racists win if we accept the word to have a different meaning?Sry I’ve been an absent mod here. Would anyone like to help mod this community?
I’ve also added a no-racist terms rule to the sidebar.
No.
til about this, but like, I doubt anyone uses this in a racist way though, far from it.
it’s not going to stop unless you have a good replacement
The term is a Reddit-ism that should die with Reddit.
- xwinman, which dates to the last millennium, uses the terms “styles” and “setups”
- boxshots.org is a site from around the turn of the century when *box style window managers were all the rage, uses the term “shots” as short for screenshots
- linuxquestions.org and daemonforums.org use the terms, “mods,” “styles,” “themes,” “customizations,” and “setups”
Im asian. I eat and like rice, even on my setups. I’m gonna keep using rice cause its not my fault yall western imperialists fuck shit up and dont wanna be reminded of it. also very western centric debate. Good job debate perverts.
Discussions like this always bring me back to one thing…can a word itself be racist? Is it racist to use a word if it’s not being said with racist intent? It’s reminiscent of the gimp debacle…if a words use isn’t intended to offend it’s honestly beyond me how anyone could find it offensive. Are we supposed to ban every single word that has the slightest history of being used in an offensive fashion? Feel like we’d have a really long list if we did that.
I first heard the term “ricer” from some Asian kids I knew in high school so I’ve never really considered it racist. But then… The N word is also mostly used by black guys (in my experience; don’t run into too many super racist non-black people who use it) and it is racist so… 🤷🏻♂️
Asian here and rice eater here.
Language doesn’t work in absolute way, it could change its meaning all the time.
It’s better to regain is neutral meaning instead of letting the racist weaponize neutral word.
Also, this mindset is also Western centric, go to Asia and people in Linux and car community simply use the word without any negative connotation.
Edit: By doing this, you’re no different from imperial government who tries to make one standard of morality, which in fact further hurts Asian living in Asia. And as Indonesian, I’m hurt with your statement. Let me regain the neutral meaning. Don’t speak for us.
Kinda curious as to what actual Asian folks, whether currently in Asia or of Asian descent, think.
I don’t use the term anyway because I’m an old grognard and couldn’t grok the lingo, but it seems to me that they’re the ones other folks should be listening to on this.
I got called out for saying this once. At first I was like “what’s racist about rice” but when I googled it everything that came up was an explicitly anti-asian meme.
So yeah the word is being used in the west as a racist term so non Asians should reconsider whether using the term helps or hurts their relationships with others within the communities we frequent. I think vigilance is better than ambivalence.
